Behind the curtain…

I don’t talk about this much, but I’m kind of the guy who got Mike Filsaime started.

Naturally, that’s a myth. I didn’t really DO anything.

MIKE got Mike Filsaime started. Just like YOU get yourself started.

But my stuff was what made him take action and that’s cool. (Unless you’re Mike’s CPA – who may blame me for the giant income tax bills. I still deny all responsibility.)

Now Mike’s business is on pace to do $10 million dollars in sales this year.

…And he’s gone on to help other people make money. And yes, some of them have become
millionaires too.

Not bad.

Anyway, a while back Mike and I recorded an interview where we discussed how the hell
we got started and actually “made it”.

We didn’t do this interview as part of a launch, or to sell anything …or to even promote anything. We just did it to be cool to our customers and subscribers and give good content.

The result is the recording here below. Only around 1,000 people have heard it before now …and it’s gotten great reviews.

There’s even a marketing nugget in few places as well.

I hope you enjoy it.

Click “play” to listen.

Or “right click” here to download.

89 Comments so far »

  1. Calum said

    am June 4 2008 @ 10:37 pm

    You clever man………:-)

  2. Alexis said

    am June 4 2008 @ 11:34 pm

    Thanks Frank and Mike. Great interview. You both put a lot of things into perspective. You give so much info I’ll have to listen a few times to get it all.
    I missed out on your Mass Control course so I’m relying on these tidbits to get things going. Keep ’em coming.

  3. Dianne Kneller said

    am June 5 2008 @ 12:03 am

    Excellent Info as Usual, I liked the email marketing.. part of it..

    So true, and Yep, only read the ones now from the people I either like or have a story, or are blatently obvious .. Great Stuff .. Good to hear the beginning of where and when you guys had the getting started stories..

    Awesome… Thanks Frank & Mike… and nice to know you realise we are not a bunch of idiots on your lists… Cool xx

    Dianne in NZ :)

  4. Sylvia said

    am June 5 2008 @ 1:18 am

    Its nice to hear about how you weren’t demanding perfection but still got plenty of things done going with the flow.

  5. Matt Bacak said

    am June 5 2008 @ 1:38 am

    Want a Irish Car Bomb? :-) Matt

  6. Rachel said

    am June 5 2008 @ 4:00 am

    Thanks to you Larry just entered my life (“Larry The List”). I will be writing personally to him from now on.

    I love Larry

    Long live Larry

    I’ve also got 4 things to change on my website thanks to this recording.

    Great stuff. Thanks

    UK Rachel

  7. roberta said

    am June 5 2008 @ 5:21 am

    You’re amazing I’m always floored to what bejejojohoho is now july 1st. Thank the lord for no more studying . Is he so good that make them and your videos look like the new one is better than the old.When the old one is better. I’m not sure if it can hold a candle to the flame that came before the old one to this I have to say thumbs up ,keep on listening and looking around that curtain cant wait for july to get it too.

  8. Tina T Willer said

    am June 5 2008 @ 6:40 am

    Yes, Frank as usual we did enjoy it!
    Thank you for all your valuable info.
    We met you at BIG SEMINAR, and you
    were as delightful there as you are in
    your e-mails.

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  9. Joanne said

    am June 5 2008 @ 6:58 am

    Fantastic Frank! I hope to meet and work with both Mike and yourself one day?? Its one of my future goals to work towards!

  10. elhamdymohamed said

    am June 5 2008 @ 8:24 am

    thank you frank

  11. Cheryl said

    am June 5 2008 @ 9:23 am

    What a truly enjoyable experience to listen to the 2 of you talk about where you came from and what you’re doing. You make it sound easy and maybe it is. Maybe I’M making it too hard! The best part is, you are clearly having fun. Thanks for sharing this.

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  13. Palyn Peterson said

    am June 5 2008 @ 10:39 am

    I liked the audio, good stuff.

    I’m proud to say I was one of frank’s and ed’s underacheivers.

    To this day, I introduct myself and say “I’m one of Frank’s undies”

    It was great being one of Frank’s undies. What a great package he had.

    There were a few brown notes, but I was changed often (on the inside) and ended up feeling quite comfortable with everything.

  14. Bill Whetstone said

    am June 5 2008 @ 10:49 am

    Dear Frank (Robin Hood) Kern,
    You got it right, Frank…yup it’s Your Fault that I am climbing under a desk and hooking up a freakin webcam so I can shoot the breeze with You and Mike and whoever you want (up to 6 people on I’m still annonymous and have your escape pad reserved next time you have to evade all the pissed off gurus who want your hide for given away the farm.
    Keep on Rockin,
    all the Best…

  15. Money Flows said

    am June 5 2008 @ 11:37 am

    Cool, man. NIce one – cheers!

  16. Harry Crowder said

    am June 5 2008 @ 1:00 pm

    Hi Frank,

    A day for Frank…

    “Surf’s up ..see you later.. oh ya, I have to post that audio ..o.k. now I’m out of here!!”

    On to tomorrow ..

    Thanks for another great audio. And I have to agree that IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT…

    But that’s a good thing.. keep ’em coming surfer boy!!

    Best regards,

    Harry Crowder

  17. Cher said

    am June 5 2008 @ 3:24 pm

    Enjoyed the recording so much ! Thanks.

  18. Glen said

    am June 5 2008 @ 3:50 pm

    I am not sure what happened or if the last message went out, so here goes again. I enjoyed your chit chat. This is my first time to listen & I sincerley thank you both. I am a very novice 75 year young computer operator. Owned jewelery store for 35years did watch and clock made a decent living, now have retired am looking for something else to do.
    Listening to your talk today sure gave me some ideas. Now just have to figure out how to use what was said.
    I thank you again looking for any advice you are able to give this o’youngster.
    Have a great day Glen {klokdok}

  19. Louie Frias said

    am June 5 2008 @ 5:09 pm

    Well Frank, you’ve done it again.

    Don;t know if you read comments onyour blog (I DO know you respond to email as you and I have had several pass between us) but, the SINGLE BIGGEST marketing nugget to ANYONE who wants to get started in the internet marketing business has just been dropped by you.

    I have been buried in research for nearly a solid year on how millionaire successes like you really got started…and today, I discovered it!

    Forget everythisng else, the “secret” was revealed in this audio. I put it in place today and if it works, I’ll drop you another email and you can share it with your subs.

    Thanks dude.

  20. Solar Energy Powers said

    am June 5 2008 @ 8:14 pm

    Thanks Frank and Mike. It is a very inspiring interview.

  21. Oscar Walters said

    am June 5 2008 @ 8:58 pm

    The moral of the story Frank, seems to be to “Take Action” on our ideas.

    Thanks for the great lesson.

  22. Shawn said

    am June 5 2008 @ 10:29 pm

    Cool audio FRANK, as to how you and Mike got started!!
    I love the back story I actually did the same thing in
    my Launch I am about to Kick off next week.
    I actually feature my Dog!

    I hope to met you soon in person.
    YOu are a great inspiration!

  23. Shawn said

    am June 5 2008 @ 10:30 pm

  24. HADADI BENI said

    am June 5 2008 @ 10:38 pm

    hello my name is hadadi iam came from africa but i am here in australia could you please heppy us to giv us hand for helping us some money to helped our people in africa thank you

  25. Vladimir said

    am June 6 2008 @ 2:18 am

    Dear Frank ,
    This is that need people.

  26. Pete O'Sullivan said

    am June 6 2008 @ 3:26 am

    Great information Fellahs,… thanks for sharing!

    Cheers, Pete

  27. Dennis Levy said

    am June 6 2008 @ 4:11 am

    Hey, Frank
    Great interview with Mike, you definitely are not the ordinary marketer. Maybe why I like getting your emails and watching your videos. You are always clowning around. While at the same time giving great helpful insights. Oh, by the way I want a refund on that 5 Internet Marketing Businesses In A Box! I was one of those people that bought that thing. I think you got that idea from Tom Hua. Then you disappeared for a couple of years. I even had subscribed to your Inner Circle newsletter with Yanik. It was my first internet business. Just kidding about the refund. I wondered what happened to you. Had heard the government came down on you. Glad you are back, I like your style, I am going to have to copy it into my email marketing. I usually open up your emails, without reading the subject line. I see it is from Frank Kern and open it up, just to see what it says. And to see what crazy thing you are going to say or do in your videos. Maybe I will get to see you in person, maybe even go surfing.
    Oh by the way, Dude surfs up, time to caught some waves.
    Later, Dennis Levy

  28. Richard Muir said

    am June 6 2008 @ 6:26 am

    Again love your work.

    Keep it coming and hope your getting some waves!

    Rich Muir
    Making registering your new company easy

  29. Richard Muir said

    am June 6 2008 @ 6:28 am

    2nd attempt at post.

    Love your work. Keep it coming.

    Hope your getting some waves.

    Making registering your new company easy

  30. Fastopm said

    am June 6 2008 @ 11:32 am

    man the new content just keeps coming thanks Frank good content and some good laughs.

  31. Lisa said

    am June 6 2008 @ 2:35 pm

    Great to hear the humble beginnings.

  32. john Allan said

    am June 6 2008 @ 3:24 pm

    dear frank,to listen to your tapes,you sound like, not only do you know what youre talking about, but you sound like a diamond guy willing to help thicko’s like me start making some doe. but i bet you get fed up with poeple emailing you sob story’s like mine,wanting to make doe risk free, without spending a penny.i am 53yrs old, and i have never been able to get back on my feet since a bitter divorce cleaned me out back in 1994,i should now be retired and have a great pension allowance. all i want in my life are my two inspirational kids, my darling second wife and to be able to afford a £300,000 log cabin in the English Lake District with enough income to live comfortably off. if i could raise enough doe to buy my dream lodge, i would work for you for virtually free, in other words for every £100,000 earned i would give you 60% back how does that sound. cheers John Allan.

  33. Colin "Google" McDougall said

    am June 6 2008 @ 4:10 pm

    Hey Frank,

    What you said about “Mike Filsaime got Mike Filsaime started” is ABSOLUTELY the real truth behind EVERY success story.

    I learned from some people, I had a desire, I put my own spin on things and while many (far too many to mention here) helped me get to where I am today….

    It was me that got me started….

    The beginning for me was a burning desire to NOT have a “real job” anymore. I hated the 2x a day commute hell, I hated the office politics and I HAD to get out…

    Sooooo… I started with the philosophy of Ready, Fire, Aim and WOW, I did it!

    No more J.O.B.

    I travel when I feel like it (in fact I am booking my next trip right now)

    For all reading this page, do what Nike says and….


    Later my friends…..


  34. Jenny said

    am June 6 2008 @ 11:46 pm

    Hi Frank,

    Thanks for this great post. It really reminded me to take action, take massive action. Sometimes, your daily life just overwhelms you and you just keeps delaying taking real action.


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  36. Yves said

    am June 11 2008 @ 8:07 pm

    Thanks, Frank!

    I love it!

  37. Kathy said

    am August 10 2008 @ 5:49 am

    Great to hear all the incredible information you have to offer. I hope to keep in touch! Kathy

  38. Prue Laird said

    am June 10 2009 @ 9:03 pm

    What a GUY! You really amaze me with your fantastic ability and your unselfishness and willingness to share with us Newbies or ‘wantabees’.

    I personally appreciate each encouraging email and the many gifts. I will try to be a good steward and use the goods to the best of my ability.

    Just thanks a jillion!


  39. valentina said

    am July 9 2010 @ 7:36 am

    this article very good!!

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