Absinthe, meet phone. Phone, meet rambling weirdo.

Ok – listen to me on this one:

There’s this drink out there called Absinthe. Tastes like fennel and rocket fuel mixed together. Kind of awesome. Anyway, they fail to mention that just a few drinks of it will turn you into a wacko.

It doesn’t make you drunk, really. More like someone comes in, shakes up the world, and then doesn’t put everything back where it originally was.


…Unless you want to simply not give a damn about selling anything. If you want to have a pretty cool conversation about semi-heavy psychological stuff and really get into Eben’s head, then it’s a good idea.

I present to you: The Absinthe Interview

This is my favorite interview out of all the ones I’ve ever done.

I don’t know if we sold anything and I don’t really give a damn. I learned some good stuff …and you will too.

Oh – click here to check out Eben’s new program. It rules. I got rich by stealing Eben’s ideas.

Now he’s not only giving out all his best stuff, he’s holding your hand and walking you through exactly what to do. In fact, he practically does a lot of the “work” FOR you.

Seriously, check it out. I’ll know if you don’t …because Absinthe also makes you psychic.

87 Comments so far »

  1. Michael E. Cantone said

    am June 1 2008 @ 3:50 pm

    Frank and Eben,
    I don’t know if you guys can relate but about 15 years ago I was shown the A.L. Williams dream of success. I know this is not that but I too have been through a lot. I am not in debt I know how to stay out of debt I want to make a living in online marketing, thank for showing my how to tear down the barriers. Frank I was taken back by green monster but after reading these previous comments it made me realize your still OK but Eben should be the standard because the money has not gone to his head.
    Michael E. Cantone

  2. Bart Murray said

    am June 1 2008 @ 4:58 pm


    I am totally jealous of your lifestyle! I’ve got to figure out how I can go surfing everyday like you and Moffat. Thanks for sharing your story and getting Eban to losen up and share so much inspiration. I guess it all comes down to “how bad do you want it?” kinda stuff. I am in Asheville NC and it was cool to find out that you were in Black Mtn getting your biz going. Anyway, thanks for the insights and now I gotta get back to my Gateway and figure out how to automate $400 dollars a day into my account. THanks!!!!

  3. Meredith said

    am June 1 2008 @ 5:32 pm

    Frank: I watched the video live and became one of Eben’s new fans. He has great ideas and proves that they work. Until I listened to the interview, I had really never heard of him. Successful people read the right books and Eben is definitely a reader. We have read a lot of the same books. I particularly related to his life story. Not too many people realize the impact your personal story can have on others. People just enjoy hearing about these things as they usually relate. When I saw him on the first video, I just supposed he was of the elite professional type. I really had no idea who he really was. From nothing to 20 mil a year. Wow!

    Thanks for sharing.
    Talk later,

  4. dan said

    am June 1 2008 @ 5:54 pm

    I know Eben is a very successful marketer but he is a BORE. I have heard a few of his dating programs and he is a BORE. Everything he presents is scripted.
    You can hear his boringness on this call. I realize things should be planned
    but without a script in anything Eben is probably a bore in real life. I am
    afraid to buy his marketing products because I am afraid he will bore me to death.
    It will take him ten hours to give you one hour of good information.
    That is how you add filler to your product. One hour of good info taking
    ten hours gives you a lot of filler to make your product appear very valuable.

  5. Memawawaw said

    am June 1 2008 @ 7:20 pm

    So what we really want to know is…does absinthe make the heart grow fonder?!

  6. Diana Adams said

    am June 1 2008 @ 7:23 pm

    Too funny Frank! I drank this while in Mesa, Mexico for a vacation and I swear there were evil spirits out to get me! Never again will I touch that drink, well not in Mexico! So I am off to read MORE of your blog now!
    Blessings Diana

  7. Reg Boczko said

    am June 2 2008 @ 9:19 am

    Wow, I have been reading about this, but never followed through…
    I totaly belive in what Eben is saying… The mind set is very IMPORTANT…
    This hopefuly will put me back on track and achive what I want out of life…
    So Frank you live on the beach, so if you like Seafood then buy my Cookbook
    Check it out at this URL; http://lulu.com/content/2181835
    Let me know what you think… Hope you or your wife cooks (lol)
    Reg B.

  8. sira7 said

    am June 2 2008 @ 10:29 am

    Great interview.

    I don’t know if i remember well but all Napoleon Hill’s case studies died broke.

    Maybe you’ll think i’m a little weirdo.
    First i apologize for my English,
    but i hope you’ll understand what i want to say – Core communication as you said.

    After he launched “traffic secrets” John Reese said that he own his success
    to Jesus Christ.

    You mentioned in your presentation Mother Theresa, and her “core” communication with audience, no matter the profession they have, their hearts were touched by M. Theresa’s words.

    You said that before 2005 you felt miserably because of your life and business.

    I must tell you that i felt the same, and it is not a NLP affirmation, because in one moment i started to think how to make more money, money, money….you know..

    When i start the IM business i started with the purpose to help people in my country to achieve what i achieved in my non IM market business, but this presentation is made in IM style. And here you, Ed Dale and Yanik Silver have a big impact.

    I use “Underachiever” spirit and method, and using ’33 days to online profits”
    like work frame i tried to help my fellows IM biz and it seems to be a success.

    But the first purpose to help transformed in greedy – more money wish who transformed me in an animal looking like a man (still :)

    Everything was going good, financially, but something happen in my heart.

    Long story short, i went to a priest and he told me to read a book wrote by
    Archimandrite Sophrony – We Shall See Him As He Is, 1985. Essex, England: Stravropegic Monastery of St. John the Baptist, 1988.

    He was the disciple of St. Silouan:


    THis book changed literally my entire life because i realized that we are connected between us (human beings) and nothing is perchance.

    Now, please don’t think I’m a mystic weirdo who try to convince you about something, just want to know your opinion, of course if is possible.

    I discovered that we are made by God “in our image, in our likeness”

    God is One in three Persons and the humans must be “in our likeness” one in many, many persons.

    Person is the opposite to individuum (ego)

    Life content for a person are the other persons, compared with ego individuum who is closed in himself(herself).

    Here on the EArth we must become persons because we, by ourselves, didn’t have life. We can survive after death only united with Christ.

    Christ is a God person but in two essence-Godness and humans and by Him we will survive after death.

    Now, Frank, please don’t call the mental hospital please.

    I believe that if we follow Jesus life, starting to call him, he will come and in His love we become like him – a human person capable to include in her(his) life all the Universe and the Godness but attention, not by ourselves (pride) but humility-meekness.

    When God in His mercy let us know what we really are, first reaction is to hate our ego individuum life, because the God love came like fire on the ice.

    First we suffer but is a good suffering because we feel God started to work in our hearts.

    When we start to awareness this we will feel our jerk-ness (!) but in the same time awareness that we see that in God’s Light.

    And step by step we start to empty our big ego and fill up with love(God love)

    With our minds (ego individuum minds) we can only learn and know just a little part of knowledge. Is like we living in a little room and we know all about that room, but suddenly we discover a door and when we open it we find another room.
    Of course in that moment we realize that we didn’t know anything about new room.

    It’s like we living in labyrinth.

    Socrates often said that his wisdom was limited to an awareness of his own ignorance.

    But when God came it is like we are in helicopter above this labyrint and we see all the reallity of our thinking.

    We can discover this only in God love united with Him.

    In this moment the human persons can communicate between them in Holly Spirit energy. Holly Spirit is God person and the content of His life is the beloved persons.

    Jesus took ego value pyramid and turn it upside down. Now if somebody wants to be the “boss” he (she) must serve others. Very few can do that because when Holly Spirit take us to meet Jesus we can meet Him down to the top of the pyramid and there is high “temperatures” and high “pressure”. In that moment Holly Spirit show us – me, you, him (every “you” is a “me”) the place where we live now – and this has a name – “Hell”.

    But when we awareness that true, our minds cleaning up and the hell state is transformed in a heaven state, but with one condition – to remain with our ego minds in hell. Every time we will forget this condition we come back to hell state which exists only if we want to exist. God let us to choose – He made us free as He Is, and He respect our freedom- love with force is impossible.

    Life is not a concept Is A Person
    Truth is not a concept Is A Person
    The Way is not an abstract concept Is A Person

    That Person Is Jesus Christ and when we meet Him we become like Him through Him – a human person who can’t die because he’s(she’s) life content is the other human persons and God Persons. One God, One Human. God in three persons, human in many, many persons.

    That’s the reason why, when we meet a person no matter if is human or God we feel peace in our souls.

    Now we can talk about personal communication not idividuum(ego) comunication without emapathy.

    Our mastermind must be Jesus and the saints. And with their help we can become persons, success persons.

    Maybe all i said here didn’t make any sense. Please let me know what is your opinion, of course if you have time.

  9. Matt said

    am June 2 2008 @ 10:54 am

    Awesome call Frank (and Eben), what happened to Eben’s blog though?

    There was some great stuff on there and now it defaults to a sales page :(

  10. Cary said

    am June 2 2008 @ 11:41 am

    You guys are awesome – thanks for sharing about your journey –
    it’s knowing you and others like you that has given me a stong knowledge
    that I can succeed at my dreams!

  11. Hogni S. said

    am June 2 2008 @ 2:27 pm

    Great conversation.

    But I got a little skeptical when I noticed that it lasted for 2 hours (at the beginnign Eben told everyone to get rid of all distraction) There is some good stuff in there…here and there somewhere…:-D but seriously guys, 2 hours? it was fun though, but I would have been bored if I didn’t have something to distract me (like solitaire)through some bits of the call 😉

    Thumbs up

  12. Linda said

    am June 2 2008 @ 5:41 pm

    I finally got to listen to all the interview.
    This interview blew me totally away! And I mean that in a dynamite way! I finally got it!

  13. aMiracleMind.com said

    am June 2 2008 @ 5:51 pm

    Frank, you and Eben are right on about success coming from the right internal programing. Having the right mindset, a mindset of success is the key to achieving one’s goals. Only when one lets go of their mindset of lacking will they move into abundance and having happiness. To accelerate having your success mindset The Abundance Course (The Release Technique) will help get you there faster than any other single thing.


    Then join a mastermind group like Eben’s or one of your own choosing to further accelerate your success.

  14. Michele said

    am June 2 2008 @ 8:07 pm

    Hi Dave and Frank:

    I deserve

    I give myself

    I want to work, create and meet

    Thank-you for your time!!!!!!!!(:


    The Universe is a friendly place..in my mind anyway.

  15. Juanita said

    am June 3 2008 @ 5:33 am

    Frank and Eben,
    Great interview!!! I learned enough from listening to you that it will take me a month, or at least a week to put into practice, before I will need to watch the free videos to learn more.
    As one of your other commenters said, we owe it all to the Lord and if we will just listen to what he has to say you will find you are right on track with what he taught us. “As a man thinketh in his mind so is he” “Through Christ ALL things are possible.” “Christ came to give us life and life abundantly”
    King Soloman was the richest man who ever lived, because he chose to put others needs first!
    People say “give a man a fish and feed him for a day” “teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime”. Sometimes we have to feed him before he is able to learn. You are doing all of that and more.
    Many opportunities have stood in my way to stop me from becoming wealthy, but I’ve always know I would. I am wealthy in some ways, but the money isn’t there yet. It is June 2nd, 2009 and I have made three million dollars. I deserve to be successful and I have a responsibility to help others become successful. I give myself permission to be successful and to help others to do the same. I give myself permission to feed those who need feeding before I can help them. As I increase my circle of like minded people I am growing into the person I deserve to be and that God intended me to be.
    Thanks again so much for this information!!!!
    What can I do to help you?
    from the heart,
    make it a great day,

  16. dan said

    am June 3 2008 @ 5:38 am

    can you please make it a download…

  17. Jennifer said

    am June 3 2008 @ 6:24 am

    I actually laughed out load twice in that 2 hour commentary – very funny chat with you two at the peak there. Also, Eben, your sincerity in sharing the bits about your heritage were heart-warming. Even more credit to you with the elegance and open-mindedness you exuded in an unorthodox tele-seminar environment … respect! Frank – you’re super chilled ‘dude’ (we SO don’t use that word here in the UK and I smiled every time I heard it!) and I don’t envy you your next-day sore head.

    Re Guru Mastermind … I’d join your mastermind in a flash! To travel 4 times per year from London having launched my new info product site: http://www.SuccessfulSingleParenting.com, (which, by the definition of that being my ‘expert area’, means I’m mildy unavailable to leave my single-parented child that frequently), is going put this choice on a 2009 list for me. I hope you re-market the mastermind as colourfully in 12 months time.

    I wish you both even greater success on every level,
    Stay amazing,

  18. asteroth said

    am June 3 2008 @ 7:08 am

    WOW!!! Frank Kerns drinks Absinthe. http://www.absinthefever.com/
    Why is there so much B.S. about Internet Selling. Get real people.
    TV preachers do it all the time, charisma, Psychobabble


    The word charisma (from the Greek word χάρισμα (kharisma), “gift” or “divine favor,” from kharizesthai, “to favor,” from kharis, “favor”: see also charism, Charis) refers to a rare trait found in certain human personalities usually including extreme charm and a ‘magnetic’ quality of personality and/or appearance along with innate and powerfully sophisticated personal communicability and persuasiveness.


    Psychobabble is a customarily pejorative term to denote technical jargon that is used outside of its intended purpose in psychology. The term implies that the speaker lacks the experience and understanding necessary for proper use of a given psychological term. Frequent usage can associate a clinical word with less meaningful buzzword definitions. Some psychological buzzwords have come into widespread use in business management training, motivational seminars, self-help, and popular psychology. These words can be overused by laypersons in describing life problems as clinical maladies, when such nomenclature is not valuable, meaningful or appropriate.

    I expressed this opinion and I didn’t even have to drink Absinthe.

  19. Brian McLeod said

    am June 3 2008 @ 12:40 pm


    May I be the first to “publicly” call for the ‘LSD Interview’ with John Reese or maybe the “Mushroom Meeting” with Moffatt?

    LOL If it’s half as entertaining as this call was…

    I smell a trend in the making:

    Hallucinogenic Marketing


    Brian McLeod
    Miami, Florida

  20. Debi said

    am June 4 2008 @ 12:59 am

    Hey Frank~

    The surfing may be better in your part of the state (unless you’re CRAZY enough to surf Mavericks – you’re not CRAZY, are you?), but you can actually buy absinthe up here in The Great North. Here’s an article about it you might enjoy…


    Or, you can scroll down here to watch a video…


    They’re kidding about petting the oompah loompahs on the distillery tour, I think, but who knows when you’re drinking absinthe, eh? I’ll stick to wheatgrass for my green drinks, thankyouverymuch!

    I agree: kind of awesome call. Both you and Eben are über SMART and trés COOL, but with such RADICALLY different ways of presenting yourselves. There’s just something about “a pairing of opposites” that always seems to work, you know? Thanks for keeping it fun, and I hope you had a FABU birthday!

  21. Ellen said

    am June 5 2008 @ 12:39 am

    Frank & Eben,

    I really like what I have been able to listen to of this call. Problem is, I am recovering from major back surgery, an unwelcome interruption in my journey, and when I listen I keep getting interrupted by meds, visiting nurses et al. Then I cannot go back to where I was without listening to the first part all over again. Could you please make this downloadable so that I can scroll through to pick it up where I left off? Otherwise, I fear I will not get to hear the good stuff at the end before you take it down and that, from the rest of the comments, would surely be a dirty shame!

    What I have been able to hear has been great. I live in a trailer at the moment, having downsized as I aged and kids, divorce, second marriage, widowhood and becoming an orphan emptied the nest. Now it is just me, my old dog, and three kitties. Still, I want to earn that million, just to prove to myself that it can be done by a feisty little old lady in quarks (like crocs) who’s loved and used home computers since 1980. I’m an autoresponder payment away from doing my thing online.

    I really like the stuff both of you do. If all goes as I have set it out, I will be able to afford one or the other or both of your programs a year from now. That would be fun! I’m EST and psychodrama and bioenergetics group trained so believe with you that we create our existence and our wealth, with the help of God and a little Vicks along the way.

    Thank you both for giving so much good stuff to those of us who haven’t yet made enough income to be able to afford your whole enchilada. It means that one of my goals becomes using the free stuff to earn enough to be able to afford the rest of the package! I hope you will each offer your mastermind stuff again, several times, so that the rest of us can tap into it when we are ready and able.

    I’m only 66 and the females in my family live to be at least 86. That means I have almost a whole lifetime yet to earn my million or three.

    Peace and Love to you and yours —Ellen

  22. Lisa said

    am June 6 2008 @ 2:26 pm

    I hear NO signs of intoxication…just normal sounding Frank. 😉

  23. Christopher Swyer said

    am June 10 2008 @ 8:16 pm

    Haha! Brilliant Frank! You’ve got to be one of the coolest Internet marketing dudes on the planet man! Getting drunk and holding a business call at the same time may well be the future! 😉

  24. Eben Pagan - Vom Tellerwäscher zum Millionär | geld-im-internet-verdienen.biz said

    am June 11 2008 @ 9:25 am

    […] Auf Ebens Blog gurumastermindvideoblog.com findet man sehr interessante Video, in denen er erklärt wie er es angestellt hat sein Geschäft aufzubauen und er führt unter anderem auch durch seine Wohnung in Kalifornien. Der Blog ist ein Muss für alle, die im Internet Geld verdienen wollen. Wer mehr über Ebens Geschichte erfahren will, findet ein zweistündiges (!) Interview mit Frank Kern auf masscontrolsite.com/blog […]

  25. rex said

    am June 11 2008 @ 1:53 pm

    I like absinthe.

  26. nicky said

    am July 11 2008 @ 6:00 am

    What’s with comment “you’re gonna be huge in Bulgaria?”

  27. nicky said

    am July 11 2008 @ 6:01 am

    What’s with the comment “you’re gonna be huge in Bulgaria?”

  28. Michael said

    am July 22 2008 @ 8:02 am

    Hi Frank,

    Reminds me of the yegermister days!

    Take it easy,
    Michael Wilson

  29. Matthew Detrick said

    am August 27 2008 @ 8:08 pm

    Frank & Eben:

    Rock on dudes. I received more out of this call
    in 2 hours than I have received in a few years.

    Thank yoU.

    Oh yes… Frank; I’m taking a leap of faith by
    putting into action a strategy I picked up on
    through your Mass Control Monthly Trial.

    Be well, smile a lot, and above all have some
    muthaf&*^&$* fun! :)

  30. Jussi said

    am October 3 2008 @ 10:28 pm

    LOL! The title was so enticing I just had to check this one out! I have no idea what fennel is in Finnish and haven’t tasted Rocket Fuel, yet at least, but Absinthe is kick ass stuff!

    More Absinthe to the world! The description of someone coming to shake up the world is very very accurate. After a shot or two of Absinthe the world is no longer the same.

    I need to return here with time to listen to whole teleseminar!

  31. garry said

    am October 23 2008 @ 1:20 am

    g,day guy,s sounds like the mastermind group to hang with,beach,surf,sunsets booze,friends talking good ol, times trailer talk,millions made in day,s real people do make it ,,thers hope for this little ozzie battler yet chears guy,s

  32. Catherine Maley said

    am November 21 2008 @ 11:34 pm

    I spent years assuming successful people were smarter, luckier, richer, prettier than me until I matured. I innately knew I was more and could be more and have been climbing ever since. It’s so refreshing to hear you guys also came from nothing and didn’t let it stop you. Eben, I’m so glad you told your story because I prejudged you to be one of those middle-eastern rich kids who was American-schooled and used his family money to get into this (could I have been any more wrong?) And, Frank – you are destined to be the “rogue information marketer” with incredible insight. Good job you guys.

  33. Richard Wilson said

    am November 22 2008 @ 8:55 pm

    Great interview. This was right on the money.

    The comments above about filler just don’t get it, or didn’t listen long enough. This isn’t a side topic, this is THE topic. Without understanding this nothing else matters.

    Every day for the last 14 months I have written down my top 15 affirmations. In that time I learned what I blog was, started it from scratch, quit my full time job, started my own company and now work for myself running my blog – making more money than I did in my last job. I’m not an Eben or a Frank but the point it is it was all driven from self affirmations, hard work and determination.

    – Richard
    Richard Wilson

  34. Miroslav Rubes said

    am January 14 2009 @ 3:14 am


    I really enjoyed the interview. It was the most funny and most eye opener for me. I personally get the best value from this. Most people cant probably get it, and that makes perfect sense for me. Because the secret of success is to give out a value that help other people. I mean thats it. It is that simple, give out stuff that help other people. But it must be your stuff not anybody else. When you start to create value then the universe will like start to giving you all what you need or what you demand.



  35. Phx said

    am January 15 2009 @ 12:38 pm

    Great Interview!!! What was really strange…at the moment Eben was talking about the universe being a great or bad place. I received a call from my CC company telling me someone had made some frudulant charges on my card. Hmmm…maybe the universe is trying to telling me something?

    Keep up the great work guys!!!

  36. Nathan Z said

    am April 15 2009 @ 11:31 pm

    Funny, and smart!

  37. Davinci's Ghost said

    am May 17 2009 @ 7:17 pm

    I know the real reason why people have either poverty or success mindsets. It is not a random glitch in the blueprint. It took me 15 years and 500 books to figure it out and it would blow you away if I told you.

    Now what do I do with it ?

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